Anonymous said...
So tell me 150 bloggers, what happened to the principal at Day Treatment?
So tell me 150 bloggers, what happened to the principal at Day Treatment?
Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Anonymous said...
I heard she slapped a student....and several adults witnessed it...is that what you are referring to....
I heard she slapped a student....and several adults witnessed it...is that what you are referring to....
Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Anonymous said...
Day Treatment does not have a principal. The administrators are an Assistant Principal, and a special education coordinator.
Don't understand what you mean by "what happened to the principal at Day Treatment?" There is no principal, unless you mean the Trewyn Principal.Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Anonymous said...
Who is /was the Principal at Day Treatment?
Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Anonymous said...
Carolyn Nunn
Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Tuesday, April 24, 2012
55 comments:
There was a principal there before Carolyn Nunn. Carolyn was at Hines as Asst. then moved to Veleska and then something happened to the principal at Day Treatment so they moved Carolyn down there. I heard the moved the original principal to Woodruff. Which one hit a kid? Carolyn or the one before her?
Carolyn Nunn is a nice lady. Sour grapes and vengeance never get an anonymous poster anywhere. This is truly unethical for a poster to put their dirty laundry out here. What does the poster have to hide that may show up on a blog?
Just that Nunn intends on becoming a retired/rehired d150 employee next year. Yep, a five day suspension was her discipline. If youre coleman, cox,or curtain you get demoted for no reason. Guess if you have speech path background, rules apply differently for you....explain that to BrendaPowell!
I've not found Carolyn to be a nice lady at all. She needs anger management. She's like Lathan, she seeks revenge if you happen to have your own opinion about anything. Carolyn is trouble. Just what Dist. 150 needs, another Lathan rump kisser while we pay out the rump. I'm sure she gets along well with Perkins!
I imagine this is from a disgruntled teacher. Doing this to people on a public blog is unethical and shows the lack of integrity. Do you really want your own dirty laundry made public?
Striking a child while in the capacity of a Principal is UNETHICAL. How come this has been so hush-hush. Lathan had no problem publicly humiliating Annette Coleman, Kevin Curtain, Michael Smith, and Gloria Cox. Why should Nunn be exempt, especially since she created her OWN turmoil?
Ummmmm. An adult slapping a student isn't really dirty laundry so much as it is abuse. Let one teacher slap a student and it's all over the news. An administrator in 150 does it and apparently unless you think the incident should remain a secret, you're unethical. Huh?
So . . . if a teacher decides to slap the superintendent or one of the board members, he or she will only get a five day suspension? Where does the line start?
Where can we buy tickets? That would be a GREAT fundraiser for the district....kinda like Whack-a-Moll...
Oh I see...blogging is now unethical! Really and you think everything up to this point has true and not unethical...wow
And to think, we pay some of you pathetic people to teach our kids.
Yes, we teach them the art of sarcasm and about how pathetic it is to be a crotchety old crone.
Actually, we teach kids to stand up for what is right. When a person has been wronged, they should have the opportunity to defend themselves......so how does that make me pathetic?
I believe this to be truth, not rumor. I, also, do find it unbelievable that 4 principals were publicly named (and could have been humiliated had it not been for the fact that the person doing the humiliating is not as respected as are the principals by their own faculties)--while this person strikes a child (I heard across the face) and has not been publicly named and/or punished with more than a 5-day suspension.
These situations prove one thing--all punishment under Lathan is subjective--there will be no fairness because each case is handled as she sees fits--and it appears decisions are made based on her personal likes and dislikes, not on any objective process. That is why so many spoke last night about their fears that the evaluation system will not be carried out with integrity and about the hostile environment of fear in which teachers are teaching.
Everyone is sitting on a powder keg--which doesn't create a good environment for kids. If it isn't good for adults, it isn't good for kids.
I guess the board is getting what they wanted, however; otherwise, this reign of terror would be coming to a close.
I don't hold out much hope for a change in the board's stance until Lathan lashes out at one or more of them--maybe she's smarter than that????
No. She'll get her butt forklifted to her before all is said and done.
Teacher evaluations are a growing nationwide expectation. Many states have already implemented them, but Illinois lags behind. With so many models out there, which one would satisfy teachers? The district "watchers"? Many will complain and crumble under the weight of accountability. Blame away...
I just hope (if this is true) that the district was smart enough to call DCFS. This is child abuse...uncalled for...and I would think the family could press charges. Where are Brady and Uphoff ('helping those who have been mistreated' Uphoff) when you need them.
This incident is EXACTLY why the teachers should be afraid of the new evaluation "tool" and the current administration. C'mon people. Two administrators apply out of the district and get demoted. One SLAPS a student and gets a 5 day suspension and NO coverage in the media. You really think the teachers should have faith in the lathanator to be fair and honest in the process. Uhhhh, nope, 'aint gonna happen.
Carolyn was not down at Trewyn at the beginning of the year. She took another's place. What happened to that person and why were they taken out?
Mary Camp was at Trewyn Day Treatment and removed. Are you sure it wasn't her who hit the child? Or are they both child abusers?
http://www.pjstar.com/news/x1581986228/Additional-D150-administrator-assigned-to-Trewyn
PEORIA —
Requests from faculty and staff have led to the assignment of another administrator to Trewyn School, said Peoria District 150 spokesman Chris Coplan.
Carolyn Nunn, who started the school year at Valeska Hinton Early Childhood Center, will join Principal Renee Andrews at Trewyn. With assistance from Carl Cannon’s ELITE Program, Trewyn was reorganized this year into a K-12 building. It also houses the Trewyn Day Treatment Center, a school within the school that serves students with behavioral disabilities.
Last week, Hillary Spencer filed a complaint with the District and Peoria police after her 9-year-old son came home from Trewyn with a dislocated thumb and abrasions to his face and neck. Spencer claims that two behavioral attendants used unnecessary restraint when her son had to be removed from a classroom and placed in an isolation room.
Spencer said her son has severe behavioral disorders and often has to be restrained, but that the two staff members did so with excessive force. A third adult, a District 150 security officer, also was involved in the restraint.
Coplan indicated that these personnel changes had nothing to do with that incident, saying “those conversations have been going on well before last week.”
Mary Camp, a special education coordinator for the district, has been reassigned from Trewyn to the Woodruff Career and Technical Center.
Mary Camp was thrown under the bus because a student claimed workers hurt him during a legal restraint. The workers were cleared after a DCFS investigation. Mary Camp was never involved. She has never touched a child, nor would she.
This is about a disgruntled teacher who got a negative evaluation. And, we in the union all know that because she told all of us in an email about wanting a meeting with the union.
This does nobody any good. It does tell us all about disgruntled employees. The same disgruntled teacher is putting names of students on other social media. That goes against every ethical law there is in education.
What goes around, comes around. That is why doing this only hurts the person starting it.
"What goes around, comes around. That is why doing this only hurts the person starting it."
If Carolyn Nunn actually hit a child, she should no longer be employed as a principal or a teacher. She should have been put on leave immediately until there was an investigation.
I remember hearing a few years ago about a high school counselor in the area who received a one-day suspension for hitting a student. Someone told me that they did call DCFS but the student had already turned 18.
Eye witnesses to Nunn slapping the student...this has nothing to do with Camp. And yes she should have been placed on leave and an investigation should have taken place...where is Brady in all of this...DCFS should have been called. Come on people. The state should step forward and do their job.
Did no one call the DCFS? Carolyn is like Lathan, she's vindictive. She's also unpredictable in her behavior. Maybe they were afraid. Were the parents told? They could have called the DCFS. Did anyone tell them? Or perhaps parents weren't involved and the child is in a foster home? This is just crazy information. There must be a police report.
The District seems to NEED more negative evaluations on those who don't do the job - teachers and admin. The broom is being swept, but there is a lot of dirt to clean up.
The only broom involved is the one Lathan is flying around on.
If Carolyn slapped a student, DCFS and the police should have been notified. If a staff person witnessed Carolyn slapping a student, they are a mandated reporter and are obligated by the law to contact DCFS. They are not off the hook even if they reported to their superiors.
Regarding Mary Camp. I have known her for years and have worked with her. She is a very kind, caring individual and she would never deliberately harm a student.
I heard that Nunn will retire in June but has been offered another position. That raises another issue. Why should retired administrators (even teachers but that doesn't happen often) get jobs in District 150 that should be available to younger people? Of course, it's cheaper for the District to hire retirees because they don't have to pay them benefits, etc. This recycling of retired administrators is another reason for extending the retirement age before pensions kick in--early retirements do create these problems.
Mrs. Nunn reported herself. For anybody who is bragging that they witnessed the event, yes, they can now be reprimanded for not calling DCFS. Mrs. Nunn turned herself in and spoke with the child's parents. She accepted and served her punishment without question.
We should try not to defame a person's professional character. Carolyn Nunn does not deserve mean-spirited comments about her.
Noone has specifics regarding the alleged slap by Mrs. Nunn. We cannot be judgmental because we have personal issues with her. It is sooo wrong to be downright hateful.
If you noticed, there are very few retirees called back to work in this administration. Most of the retired teachers and administrators are far to smart to work in an Administration that is inferior and dysfunctional.
Note: If Carolyn Nunn has already been punished, why punish her again with the printed word?
Wow! Nunn thinks a 5 day suspension is what she should have received. Was there a police report? Anyone heard of assault and battery....word on the street....security witnessed it. Let the sweeping continue and really just because someone reports themselves doesn't make it ok.
A little devil's advocate...
Could there be a possibility that the child was so far out of control that they needed a slap to snap them out of it? Not the recommended practice, but...
It was probably sheer reaction to the situation. You all talk regularly about how "bad" some of these children are in regular classrooms. Wouldn't that be amped up at the Day Treatment Center?
Emerge, you are so right, but still, it is against the law to hit a student. People have been demoted and fired for less. And, as you can tell from your comments, Carolyn must be bi-polar. There are those that love her and those that can't stand her. She has a duo personality. If anyone had hit that child under her watch, they'd be out the door. Now she is coming back? Where? Is she going to sit on her rear like Perkins? Why do we need to rehire an admin that hits children when we are demoting perfectly good admin?
"Mrs. Nunn reported herself" Did she report herself to DCFS?
"Could there be a possibility that the child was so far out of control that they needed a slap to snap them out of it? Not the recommended practice, but."
Yes, working with students that are behaviorally challenging can be difficult. I did this for over 15 years, was involved in numerous restraints and never slapped or hit a child.
Scanner @ 10:24AM...
fight at district 150 treatment center on knoxville - lock it down.
hmmmm..."did this for over 15 years" I guess gives you away.
Emerge, you are so right. It is stressful to work there. Mrs. Nunn knew it was wrong, called the appropriate people, including the parents, and took her consequences.
I don't know if DCFS was called, but "Eyewitness" is in big, big trouble if she did not report it, if it was necessary. Didn't we all undergo mandated reporter training?
Day Treatment is a program with students with IEPs. None of this should be for public consumption. The proper people were called, and somebody is on a witch hunt here.
If DCFS was not called "the proper people" were not notified!!
Potential abuse of students is not "for public consumption" huh?
I called attention to the disparity in punishments; however, there is always a danger that a teacher of principal is going to respond inappropriately to extremely unruly students and Day Treatment is a place where one would expect very stressful situations.
I certainly would hope that one incident (and proof that this behavior is not at all usual) should not result in undue punishment.
Also, as a principal, how understanding would Nunn be or was she when someone else under her watch reacted inappropriately in a similar situation?
We are witnessing a period in education when evaluators sometimes have not proven themselves superior to those whom they are evaluating. That is a concern that I have--that the evaluators have forgotten about reality in the classroom. If teachers and principals are going to be held accountable by someone above them, then we have to hope that the evaluators are not the "do as I say, not as I do or did" type. The evaluation process needs more integrity than District 150 personnel are getting.
"hmmmm..."did this for over 15 years" I guess gives you away... somebody is on a witch hunt here."
It's not necessary to hunt for the witch in the District that is 150, the witch is omnipotent.
I agree, Emerge.
In the Spotlight: Day Treatment program too important to cut
By JOHN HEINTZMAN
Posted Apr 22, 2012 @ 09:34 PM
Life affords opportunity to those who least expect it. I have been fortunate to have had the opportunity to work in a special services program, Day Treatment, located at Peoria's Trewyn School. A program like this can be eliminated without a voice.
I became aware of Day Treatment when I was working in social services and had a client whose son was enrolled there. Though I had infrequent contact with the teachers, I was still impressed with the necessity of such a program. When the opportunity afforded itself, I seized the chance to work with these educators.
Day Treatment offers students labeled "behavior disorder" a place to learn and to grow. Learning scales vary and promotion may be limited, but Day Treatment provides an environment that builds trust and safety for some who elsewhere might be regarded as misfits, with education secondary to discipline. These students have been referred from their home school because they were unable to learn in the classroom without disruption.
The administration has a keen insight into making this program successful. I have observed educators who have created a scholastic climate in which all students believe their worth, in which youth are expected to participate and resolve conflicts, in which each has a purpose. Their understanding of this faction of the student population and what is needed to educate them to the highest degree of proficiency is remarkable.
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I have also had the opportunity to work with support staff who are as important as the primary educators. I find talk in District 150 of eliminating teaching assistants, behavioral attendants and support staff to be disheartening and frustrating. Teacher aides act as vital team-teachers whose relationships with students are exceptional. Behavioral attendants are a unique group in this environment, making this program and its structure vital to student learning. Without their expertise in discipline and guidance, students would not learn to be respectful and appreciative. Their interaction with students impresses upon them good character and ethics.
Day Treatment offers a constructive alternative to the traditional academic classroom. The entire staff at Day Treatment gives hope and guidance to all students, every day. Hopefully, the administration and School Board in District 150 will see the positive effect this program has on the community.
John Heintzman is an art educator and lives in Peoria.
Thank you, Emerge. Day Treatment is an important, viable placement for students who need extra help with their behavior. This is truly appreciated!
Dr. Lathan and company did visits at Trewyn today. Two kids, at least, were purposely put in ISS so they would be out of the way. No large men in the cafeteria were yelling in the mic for the kids to shut up, or we will send you home. No threatening anybody during lunch, which is different than the usual atmosphere. The Elite Team showed up in full-strength for the first time in a long time.
The great & mighty Lathan arrived! Trewyn cleaned-up pretty good. But not a typical day, that's for sure!
You know what is wrong with this blog? Comments from Emerge. Comments from Sharon Crews. And a dozen or so anonymous comments.
We need some people putting their names onto their opinions,
Billy, Thanks for your input.
Yes Billy, thanks for your comment.
If I had the time I would tell you what's wrong with your many blogs, but I don't, so carry on.
To Emerge: Do you have any idea when the Board meetings will be televised? It appears that the Board has turned a deaf ear to the public request. Could you investigate who is holding this form of communication hostage? Are they trying to hide something?
It certainly isn't the financial aspect of it. The District does have a technology department that could immediately set up cameras and tape the meetings.
RESPECT YOUR TAX-PAYING PUBLIC !!!
All public bodies televise their meetings: City Council, County Board, etc.
Please do not draw conclusions about this situation without contacting your board member about what exactly happened and finding out the facts. You have made assumptions not based on facts, and are assuming this can be lumped in with how the board treats the principals they have demoted. I taught in a high school of 3500 outside of Indianapolis, was staff member #125, and know that few people could stand in the shoes of those "in the trenches" and last for any amount of time. Don't get me wrong...I am pro teacher AND student, and the only way this whole process of "education" works is by all levels working together, especially the parents and students, as this student was physically attacking the person in question. It is not known if the person in question was Carolyn Nunn, unless of course, one of you has spoken to her personally or to one of her superiors, or was actually there yourself when said altercation took place. You have vilified this woman's name without the facts, if it even was her, which is not how reasonable adults act. I am a big fan of this blog and thoroughly enjoy Emerge's information. Please do as I did and contact a board member the next time you hear a "rumor". You had no right to trash a woman who has given above and beyond in her profession to this community. Find out the facts...I guarantee you your opinion will change. Thank you, Emerge, also, for the live blogging. "Anonymous" has a sense of humor that is above the norm and keeps me laughing through tough times!!
Ms. Schwarz, I don't know what board member you talked to or where they got their information, but there was no physical altercation going on when this student was slapped. He was physically attacking no one. He was sitting in a chair. He allegedly tried to spit at Nunn. Why did she not remove herself from the situation rather than strike him? Seems to me that is what a professional should do. Nunn did not "report herself" to DCFS. However DCFS was notified. No matter how long and allegedly illustrius the career, slapping a student should end that career. No one who physically strikes a child in anger should be re-hired to work with children, in any capacity.
Anonymous, were you either 1)present when said altercation happened, 2)spoken to Mrs. Nunn personally, 3)spoken to her boss (if it was even her)4)spoken to a board member about what happened? My whole point is that out of all the comments, I could find not one that wasn't based on "hearsay". Nor could I see any proof that it was even Carolyn Nunn, based on the comments. It is sad to see anyone's name brought up in such a way. I know none of us would want such a thing to happen to ourselves, so I contacted a board member to inquire of the facts. That is one of the board's jobs. Not once did I use Mrs. Nunn's name in my inquiry. The board member was astute enough to lay out the facts as he/she had them, and I made the choice to trust that over hearsay statements. I believe in finding out as many sides as possible before drawing conclusions. That's just me. I'm in no way justifying slapping a student..what I'm trying to say is that this board member informed me that it was an act of self-defense, and I knew that in the heat of a moment any of us could have responded the same way. There were other facts stated which explained the rationale, but I'll let you call a board member yourself or attempt to speak to Mrs. Nunn (if that's who did it) to find out what those facts were. I never said I agreed with the rationale. Make those contacts and tell us what you found out. Thanks!
Also, just to clarify, I agree that any school employee who slaps a student should be fired. I know that's what would have happened to me back in my teaching days. I agree that a long and illustrious career should be ended when a district employee slaps a student out of anger. My whole point is that someone's name was publicly trashed without anyone appearing to have any facts, nor appearing to have been present when the event happened. To me, the comments were bringing down the whole credibility of this blog. That's just me. If anyone HAS facts they'd like to share, feel free to correct me. I always welcome input.
Anyone who witnessed the event and has the facts would have to be a current student or employee and I imagine, would need to stay anonymous out of fear of retribution.
To the previous "Anonymous": unfortunately, what you say is true. Years ago one of my own children came home with a horrific bruise inflicted by a district employee. I knew who did it, that person knew that he/she did it, yet I assumed that since DCFS was involved, that employee was going to be terminated. A couple years later I walked into a different school building and saw that same employee employed full time at that school. A few years after that, something even more hideous happened over a period of months, and when I tried to intervene and sort the whole thing out, I was under the understanding that the abusive teacher (I would not say that if I didn't have proof) had been terminated. Instead, I found out MONTHS later that this teacher had actually resigned and moved out of state to work in a different profession, and I was pretty livid that I had been duped by an administrator I had trusted. I haven't even TOUCHED the tip of that story! Whenever I tried to find out information, no one would talk to me. I felt evaded by everyone who was a witness or had full knowledge of what happened. I learned the hard truth from both situations: everyone shuts up, either for legal reasons or out of fear of losing his/her job. And that's no joke. I can't tell you how many teachers have told me, "Janet, you can speak out because you're a parent. I CAN'T because I'll lose my job." So, Anonymous, I do understand why so many must post under "anonymous", and I certainly do not criticize them for doing so, for I know it is true. And for that reason, the truth about the situation may never be known, and the employee who did this will have to live with it the rest of his/her life. Just like the ones who did the unspeakable to one of my kids. There are times when the higher road is to let that person live with his/her conscience. If someone could just contact a school board member, you will see some facts that will explain why this person (whoever it is) is still employed. Again, for the record, I never agreed to any of this, just like I never accepted what happened in the past.
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