I see you looked up what i was talking about the other day. That is what needs to be brought to people's attention. Thank you Emerge you Nailed it on the head.
I think we are fooling ourselves into believing that talking about the causes and the possible solutions to all these killings will stop the killings. Mankind's history, in general, has always been violent. Some countries live in a constant state of violence. Our own country's history is a story of much violence. Yes, Peoria is a more violent city than it was when I was growing up, so something has changed, but I don't know where the solutions lie. Blaming each other won't solve the problems. In fact, it will probably increase the problem.
Did that last comment come from the same person who shows up at every D150 board meeting to blame the administration and board for not enforcing discipline in schools?
I guess I need to clarify. I didn't mean to imply that perpetrators of crimes should not be punished or that bad student behaviors should not be punished. My views aren't contradictory. I have never blamed administrators or parents for the bad behavior of students. I have blamed and will continue to blame District 150 administrators for not enforcing discipline. As far as school is concerned, students who go to school to learn should not be deterred by bad behaving students. It's the administration's job to see to it that young people can learn in a safe, calm environment. All of us should continue to search for and address the causes of bad and violent behavior--but discipline and consequences should not be abandoned just because we can't find or fix the cause. We get crazy when, after one of these horrific events, we try to figure out why the killer did what he/she did. There is a good possibility that even the killer doesn't know why. Of course, we try to determine cause so that we can stop similar future events. So we blame video games, parenting styles, etc. Just as in this case, because the killer was autistic, some began to speculate that autism was the cause--and that kind of speculation is the kind of blame to which I was referring. We have to work harder to keep students safe in the world in which we live today. And ultimately parents have to do everything they can do to help their own children not to feel threatened enough physically or psychologically to want to strike out at others. Teachers, etc., must help in that effort, also.
Mass shootings are anomalies that can be smoothed out when the real issues of gun control are corrected.
Folks want their rifles for hunting - that should be allowed, after following the correct procedure. There you go - 2nd Amendment cowboy ish. Enjoy.
The concealed carry crap giving folks the "option" to protect their selves with handguns is the problem.
As long as there are break-ins and burglaries, there will be handguns on the street. The "good" people who want concealed carry and who have valid FOID cards seem to have their houses broken into regularly, as a result, guns on the street.
Emerge, you are right, of course. Those who want guns and cannot get them legally will steal them from those who own them legally. In this most recent case, of course, the theft proved fatal for the mother who owned the gun. Therefore, Emerge's point certainly proves true. If we want to reduce (we won't eliminate) the killings, those who want to own guns have to recognize that their guns may be used to kill innocent people. I have the terrible feeling that these avid gun owners won't agree.
I agree with all that Ms. Crews and Emerge have said here. Teaching and learning is not happening in D150 due to lack of consequences. That needs to change.
More people in D150 are going to be hurt, as kids figure out they can do whatever they want. These NC people need to be forced to teach in the classroom, so they can understand how little learning is being done.
It is only a matter of time before a gun is brought into the schools. Then what happens? You still send that student right back to the classroom?
Of the school gun incidents in Peoria over the last 10 years or so, where did the kids get the guns? Home? Directly stolen from a legal gun owner? Or thru the gang underground market??
Not one NC person could ever make it in the classroom that is why they are all in administration. Hasn't anyone else noticed this! They are all rejects that is why they were hired by Lathan to give them a job. Our kids aren't learning anything because the disruptive ones are running the schools without any consequences. The power needs to be given back to the principals and the "resource officers" need to be called by their rightful name which is Security Officers.
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... but the only children Washington seems to care about, are those shot with assault weapons.
How could this be possible given Chicago's strict gun regulations?
I see you looked up what i was talking about the other day. That is what needs to be brought to people's attention. Thank you Emerge you Nailed it on the head.
Ummm, you must be that guy Carly was talking about.
I think we are fooling ourselves into believing that talking about the causes and the possible solutions to all these killings will stop the killings. Mankind's history, in general, has always been violent. Some countries live in a constant state of violence. Our own country's history is a story of much violence. Yes, Peoria is a more violent city than it was when I was growing up, so something has changed, but I don't know where the solutions lie. Blaming each other won't solve the problems. In fact, it will probably increase the problem.
Did that last comment come from the same person who shows up at every D150 board meeting to blame the administration and board for not enforcing discipline in schools?
I guess I need to clarify. I didn't mean to imply that perpetrators of crimes should not be punished or that bad student behaviors should not be punished. My views aren't contradictory.
I have never blamed administrators or parents for the bad behavior of students. I have blamed and will continue to blame District 150 administrators for not enforcing discipline.
As far as school is concerned, students who go to school to learn should not be deterred by bad behaving students. It's the administration's job to see to it that young people can learn in a safe, calm environment.
All of us should continue to search for and address the causes of bad and violent behavior--but discipline and consequences should not be abandoned just because we can't find or fix the cause.
We get crazy when, after one of these horrific events, we try to figure out why the killer did what he/she did. There is a good possibility that even the killer doesn't know why. Of course, we try to determine cause so that we can stop similar future events. So we blame video games, parenting styles, etc. Just as in this case, because the killer was autistic, some began to speculate that autism was the cause--and that kind of speculation is the kind of blame to which I was referring.
We have to work harder to keep students safe in the world in which we live today. And ultimately parents have to do everything they can do to help their own children not to feel threatened enough physically or psychologically to want to strike out at others. Teachers, etc., must help in that effort, also.
Mass shootings are anomalies that can be smoothed out when the real issues of gun control are corrected.
Folks want their rifles for hunting - that should be allowed, after following the correct procedure. There you go - 2nd Amendment cowboy ish. Enjoy.
The concealed carry crap giving folks the "option" to protect their selves with handguns is the problem.
As long as there are break-ins and burglaries, there will be handguns on the street. The "good" people who want concealed carry and who have valid FOID cards seem to have their houses broken into regularly, as a result, guns on the street.
Emerge, you are right, of course. Those who want guns and cannot get them legally will steal them from those who own them legally. In this most recent case, of course, the theft proved fatal for the mother who owned the gun. Therefore, Emerge's point certainly proves true. If we want to reduce (we won't eliminate) the killings, those who want to own guns have to recognize that their guns may be used to kill innocent people. I have the terrible feeling that these avid gun owners won't agree.
I agree with all that Ms. Crews and Emerge have said here. Teaching and learning is not happening in D150 due to lack of consequences. That needs to change.
More people in D150 are going to be hurt, as kids figure out they can do whatever they want. These NC people need to be forced to teach in the classroom, so they can understand how little learning is being done.
It is only a matter of time before a gun is brought into the schools. Then what happens? You still send that student right back to the classroom?
Of the school gun incidents in Peoria over the last 10 years or so, where did the kids get the guns? Home? Directly stolen from a legal gun owner? Or thru the gang underground market??
Not one NC person could ever make it in the classroom that is why they are all in administration. Hasn't anyone else noticed this! They are all rejects that is why they were hired by Lathan to give them a job. Our kids aren't learning anything because the disruptive ones are running the schools without any consequences. The power needs to be given back to the principals and the "resource officers" need to be called by their rightful name which is Security Officers.
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